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administrator.Michael Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14144393233093077705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-27694433400185039002010-02-10T08:24:09.784-05:002010-02-10T08:24:09.784-05:00Rather interesting place you've got here. Than...Rather interesting place you've got here. Thanks the author for it. I like such themes and everything that is connected to them. I would like to read a bit more soon.<br /><br />Sincerely yours<br /><a href="http://www.spielcasino-deluxe.com/" rel="nofollow">Jeph Normic</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-85592387828897794172010-01-31T22:27:40.798-05:002010-01-31T22:27:40.798-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04718274024116305192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-2121939612511365722009-07-26T18:28:35.116-04:002009-07-26T18:28:35.116-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-51799785246898617222009-02-11T21:12:00.000-05:002009-02-11T21:12:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-28697242985668483602009-01-18T16:01:00.000-05:002009-01-18T16:01:00.000-05:00"I think independent bookstores can be a source fo..."I think independent bookstores can be a source for culture, community, and social justice. " <BR/><BR/>Hey, just to say thank you for all these words. I totally agree… from Paris ! I work in a bookstore too, and still want to be as optimistic as you :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-78381561521688839212008-09-05T06:33:00.000-04:002008-09-05T06:33:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-1163741824739176602006-11-17T00:37:00.000-05:002006-11-17T00:37:00.000-05:00hi,i'm probably a little late on this one. Just go...hi,<BR/><BR/>i'm probably a little late on this one. Just googled "future of bookselling" as i've been thinking on this a bit lately (i've been a campus bookseller for 5 years now & a book person my whole life) - your blog is right at the top. Anyhow here's my take on the future of bookselling. Print on demend technology will drop in price. Book production will move from the work of publishers to that of booksellers who will licence the right to print individual copies (at a nominal price) for the customer. Books aren't going anywhere & neither is specialist bookseller knowledgeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-1149645675002382372006-06-06T22:01:00.000-04:002006-06-06T22:01:00.000-04:00Here's a great example of a corporate publisher..i...Here's a great example of a corporate publisher..in this case Time Warner (or Hachette or whatever)...cheapening its brand by making short term, trend-following decisions...<BR/><BR/>If you go to Amazon, you can find remaindered copies of Alice Sebold's bestseller, "The Lovely Bones" (ISBN 0316168815). Amazon is selling this trade paperback at a 61% discount. (Which means Hachette probably sold them these copies at LESS THAN HALF the price the price that I'd pay to bring it into the store.) That's right...the trade paperback edition, not a hardcover...of a title that is still sought out on a daily basis. <BR/><BR/>Publishers (and we booksellers) are already crying in our sleep about the drop in hardcover sales. What could you expect? Bookbuyers have been trained to wait for the paperback. And Hachette's solution? Train customers to wait for the overstock copies!!<BR/><BR/>Hachette is following all the hottest trends with this one...a large scale distributor, the internet, used books...<BR/><BR/>...so congratulations, Hachette! You've just turned one of your strongest sellers into something that...well, is just not very special...<BR/><BR/>...and what has this to do with the future of bookselling? Hachette's actions...the cheapening of its brand to meet short term financial goals...are the actions of a player that is ceding its leadership position in the industry. When all the corporate publishers have become tails, rather than dogs, someone is going to rebuild the entire book world. And that's going to change my life...just don't know how...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-1149634277062841482006-06-06T18:51:00.000-04:002006-06-06T18:51:00.000-04:00I think a lot of people thought the same thing bac...I think a lot of people thought the same thing back in the early 80s when tons of indies had gone under because of Crown, Dalton and Walden.<BR/><BR/>In 1959 there were 10,000 indies. In 1982 there were fewer than 2,000 left. Because of aggressive outreach work on the part of ABA in the 80s, by 1991 we were back up to 5100 indies, and Crown was in trouble and later went backrupt, with Dalton and Walden merely appendages to the new chains: the illicitly publisher-subsidized former-indies B&N and Borders.<BR/><BR/>Neither B&N nor Borders is a particularly large or stable corporation. Why hasn't a big media conglomerate bought either one of them? They're not a "safe" bet!<BR/><BR/>As you point out, the huge general-merch discount retailers are a gigantic threat to the current big-box bookstores because companies like Wal-Mart are 50 times as large as Barnes & Noble. But this is the exactly the point: B&N isn't very large by American corporate terms. So, a thousand new indie bookstores entering the market in the next three years would substantially cut into B&N and Borders's market share, and would alarm the stock market analysts enough to harm their share prices.<BR/><BR/>Yes, I do believe an attack is possible. I do believe that history shows that the current bookstore chains can have their market share taken from them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-1149627964142149882006-06-06T17:06:00.000-04:002006-06-06T17:06:00.000-04:00Andy-Then how do you explain the frequent deaths a...Andy-<BR/>Then how do you explain the frequent deaths and continuing ill-health of so many established, well-run independents? None of the veteran booksellers I know is sanguine about the future either of their own independent or of independents as a class. I'm not talking trash, I desperately want indies to thrive. But I just don't smell the death of big-box anything in the wind. The demographics, the economics and the (national) culture are stacked against the independent. Can you imagine a movement of thousands of new independent hardware stores opening up and seriously threatening home depot? Of course not. Even if they could cause some minor annoyance to the big boxes, they wouldn't have deep enough pockets to survive a war. And of course, books are different from hardware, but the same macro forces are at work. <BR/><BR/>Now, it could be that the price clubs and merchandisers (walmart/target etc.) will continue to hurt the bookstore chains, as they have been doing for a while. Maybe they'll take over so much of the market, undercut the chains so much that they'll drive Borders over the edge of the cliff. But even if that happens, and some market share opens up, how do these theoretical legions of new independents compete where the deep-pocketed chains couldn't? I don't know if opening an independent made sense from a purely entrepreneurial standpoint in the 80s, but it most certainly doesn't now. The only reason to do it is because you love it, and the only way to do it is with a full appreciation of the ways in which the deck is stacked against you. It's not impossible, failure isn't inevitable, more people should have the fortitude and idealism to try it (I hope I will one day) -- but they should know what they're getting into.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-1149621802233457392006-06-06T15:23:00.000-04:002006-06-06T15:23:00.000-04:00The amazingly optimistic feelings among a large se...The amazingly optimistic feelings among a large sector of the public in the late 80s about the likely success of any given brand new independent bookstore turned out to be disastrous for a group of major corporations. This upstart can-do mentality dramatically destabilized the publishing and bookselling businesses. It was imperative to not only tamp down the growth of indie bookselling, but also to ensure that never again would thousands of people open their own indie bookstores all at once, and never again would the general public view new indie bookstores as inherently superior to the corporate-controlled outlets.<BR/><BR/>Why? Big publishers wanted sales outlets they could control, in terms of what books these outlets would purchase and promote. Predictability is perceived by managers at publishing houses as enormously desirable. They can get a measure of predictability from chain retail outlets who will guarantee shelf-space in exchange for ad-payments. Indie booksellers generally refuse to promote "just any" book a publisher desperately wishes to promote.<BR/><BR/>So -- let's look at all this incredible trash-talking regarding the impossibility of independent bookselling, the inevitable doom of independent bookselling, etc.<BR/><BR/>Who benefits from this nonsense??<BR/><BR/>A sudden reprise of the 80s boom in entrepreneurialism among book-lovers, resulting in a dramatic upsurge in storefront openings will hurt:<BR/><BR/>1) Current chainstores,<BR/>2) Current indie bookstores,<BR/>3) Corporate publishers<BR/><BR/>Also: Amazon, Google -- any online booksellers -- anyone who's trying to stake a claim as the Inevitable Victor.<BR/><BR/>So I'd argue that there is in effect a disinformation campaign being waged by publicity firms and publicity departments and that this is being parroted and amplified by ignorant or pliant media voices.<BR/><BR/>A few thousand of the 200,000 people now employed in the book industry, if they act in a roughly simultaneous fashion, drawing on their terrific skills, working together to launch lots of indie bookstores, will silence all these foolish words about the death of independent bookselling. <BR/><BR/>No: It's the death of big-box bookselling, the weakening of corporate-conglomerate publishing, the weakening on online-exclusive booksellers (online bookselling will become a subsector of bricks-and-mortar bookselling) -- THAT'S what's in the wind.<BR/><BR/>Trash talk. Trying to scare us.<BR/><BR/>Andy LatiesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18086590.post-1149596474901524912006-06-06T08:21:00.000-04:002006-06-06T08:21:00.000-04:00Books and independent booksellers are survivors. ...Books and independent booksellers are survivors. Radio...we survived. Film...we survived. Television...audiobooks...the internet...Big Corporate Boxes...we survived we survived we survived.<BR/><BR/>There are only two life-threatening enemies out there. The first is publishers that chase trends. They've been doing this for a decade now, and have accomplished nothing (except a cheapening of their brands). Publishers should be leading this industry...and if they're not, someone else will step in...and then all bets are off.<BR/><BR/>The second threat is Booksellers Without Imagination. These "Booksense or Bust" types might as well go work for Borders. They are doomed to failure. They show up to work every day and demonstrate how mediocre an independent bookstore can be. They hurt us all. (Ever wonder why the strength of Big Corporate Boxes seems to grow in direct proportion to the strength of Booksense? Think about it.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com